Lazaro Hernandez: My skincare routine hasn’t modified since I used to be 16 years outdated. It’s nonetheless division retailer stuff, Clinique stuff, issues like that. But that’s the age I began caring about my pores and skin. You have a breakout while you’re 15 or one thing, and also you’re like, ‘Ah, what do I do!’ I purchased no matter I purchased, and it form of works on me, and I’ve by no means actually needed to change from that.
Jack McCollough: I take advantage of SK-II. It’s gotten costly—it didn’t was that costly. I simply purchased some extra toner and it was like $180 bucks for a bottle.
Lazaro: Really? Mine’s like $18.95. [Laughs]
Jack: I began utilizing it years in the past. It’s in all probability not [doing anything], however I’ve satisfied myself it does. I moisturize afterwards. I don’t use lotion—I take advantage of oil from May Lindstrom. It’s very nice. It’s truly like a serum, however I take advantage of it as a moisturizer.
Lazaro: Your pores and skin seems to be fairly good, now.
Jack: Did I’ve unhealthy pores and skin?
Lazaro: No, however you’d have little breakouts right here and there…
Jack: Yeah, I’d get little breakouts every now and then, however I haven’t had a breakout in years. I like that [the May Lindstrom] is all form of natural supplies. The Clinique Three-Step works for Lazaro, however it simply feels very alcohol-y, astringent-y, and I like issues that aren’t so harsh on the pores and skin.
Lazaro: I’m fairly low-maintenance. [My routine is that] I stand up and take a bathe just about each morning. I’ll work out generally within the morning, two or thrice per week. We have slightly fitness center in the home so we use that. I wash my face with that [three-step Clinique]. Then we make ourselves some espresso.
Jack: I’m fairly low upkeep, too. I’ve by no means been capable of finding an excellent shampoo I like—
Lazaro: He’s horrible!
Jack: —and he makes use of horrible ones. We’re speaking like, chemical—
Lazaro. I actually go to Duane Reade and purchase all my provides! [Laughs]
Jack: He loves like, the Head and Shoulders.
Lazaro: I take advantage of Head and Shoulders. At 16 I had dandruff, and I did Head and Shoulders and it form of took it away, after which I by no means stopped.
Jack: It smells horrible.
Lazaro: I had dry pores and skin and a dry scalp. It’s truly good for me after I don’t wash my face or shampoo day by day.
Jack: You have that trick that my mother additionally does, which works effectively for you.
Lazaro: I did it final evening, truly. Like while you wash your face and then you definately put Vaseline throughout your face.
Jack: My mother’s executed it her complete life, and she or he has nice pores and skin.
Lazaro: It’s actually good. It simply form of like, seals the moisture in.
Jack: We love an excellent therapeutic massage.
Lazaro: I am going to Fishion Herb Center on the Lower East Side. It’s this hole-in-the-wall man. He places a blanket over you and it’s similar to [snoring sound].
Jack: You don’t even take your garments off, do you?
Lazaro: Well yeah, you are taking your garments off, however he places the blanket over you. He simply beats you up—like, intense. He walks on you.
Jack: We’re very concerned [with the beauty in our runway shows]. It’s like finishing the look of the woman—we had been working with the garments all season lengthy, however it’s cool to place the character collectively ultimately. Figure out the casting, and who the lady is, and what her hair seems to be like, what the sweetness is on the face. We normally don’t go very heavy on the make-up—simply clear, very pure pores and skin. Every every now and then, we’ll do like a matte lip, or coloured hair. Tata Harper labored with us on our final present. Diane [Kendall] does good non-makeup make-up.
Lazaro: She’s like, main pores and skin.
Jack: I appreciated final Spring—Diane did this type of like elongated eyebrows. She simply form of penciled them in slightly longer.
Lazaro: And they had been lovely.
Jack: And it’s these good little refined issues the place it doesn’t appear like you’re carrying make-up, however it form of exaggerates a characteristic and helps create a personality. I’ve at all times cherished make-up.
Lazaro: And it’s at all times been a dream of ours to do a fragrance. You know, while you’re a designer and also you take a look at the histories of all these main manufacturers—like, you begin with excessive vogue, and also you escape and do footwear, and also you do baggage, and also you begin to do extra democratic sorts of merchandise. One of these steps is certainly perfume—it appeals to a broader viewers. And it will get our message out to a bigger shopper base. Also, [there’s] the magic of it. How is a perfume put collectively? How do you’re employed on a scent? Who do I work on this with? All of that has been actually attention-grabbing to us on a artistic stage. We’ve by no means executed one thing like this—it’s taken two years for this one factor.
Jack: It was exhausting as a result of we needed to get some folks’s opinions, however then it’s additionally harmful, pulling too many individuals into the combo. Because then it’s like, ‘I would wear it like this,’ or, ‘I don’t prefer it like that,’ ? You can get slightly sophisticated—
Lazaro: We didn’t need anybody’s opinion, truly.
Jack: I imply, thank god we had a bunch of nice folks on the L’Oréal facet that actually know perfume, and a number of ladies in these conferences as effectively. It was nice to get their enter and their suggestions.
Lazaro: I wore it loads. It was wonderful to have it on for some time. For us, we’re not making an attempt to speak concerning the state of Arizona. It’s extra of a mind-set. It was, for us, the concept of the out west, and the concept of escaping and disconnecting, and connecting to issues that form of matter actually to your self. It’s the concept of grounding. It’s an escape, a retreat—the west as a non secular place, in a manner. Arizona was simply an attention-grabbing phrase that felt good with Proenza—Proenza, Arizona. We appreciated that it was a girl’s identify. It simply form of represents that concept of escape and going out west, and having connection and all these issues. Less of the state.
Jack: We wish to get away. I imply, we purchased a farm up within the nation 10 years in the past—up within the Berkshires, in Massachusetts. We go there a number of weekends to form of get away and escape, and simply unwind, and form of get again in contact with nature.
Lazaro: Travel.
Jack: We go up there, and we work on collections there as effectively.
Lazaro: [Relaxing] normally entails getting away from the town.
Jack: We discover the town an excellent place to go to get issues executed, have conferences, see folks. But by way of our artistic course of, and simply getting again in our heads, escaping is at all times the most effective route for us to take.
—as advised to Primetweets
Jack McCollough and Lazaro Hernandez photographed in New York on February 9, 2018.